DID and BPD in one? (Pag.2)

Part 2: DID and BPD in one?DD-BPD-DID

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 So can BPD and DIS occur at the same time

A Borderline personality disorder finds its origin in psychological neglect of the younger child. A child that has to fight over and over again to be seen, heard and loved. Or had to prove itself over and over again to feel worthily. Such a child develops an unbearable need to fill the gap of emptiness caused by the psychological and mental neglect in which it develops an ongoing hunger for love and attention that even more results in previous and repeatedly painful deceptions: I’m not worthy to be loved, I’m not worthy to been seen, love is not trustable, etc. The child loses the ability to trust and attach to other people although it suffers an ongoing, unbearable and insatiable hunger for love and attention.
Now the first question could be: Where do we draw the line of defining ‘trauma eo traumatized experiences to a (C)PTSD’. Not everyone with an BPD had to go through childhood traumatic experiences such as sexual or severe physical abuse. Although they are severe psychological and mentally wounded by neglect it doesn’t lead directly to a Complex PTSD in the order of a structural dissociation of the personality.

So perhaps we could define (C)PTSD as:
If there had been psychological and physical abuse, extreme anxiety sensations and or bodily injury, than you speak of severe trauma that can lead to the category ‘Dissociative Disorder’ in the order of a structural dissociation of the personality:
3 levels: PSD, SSD and TSD

And define the trauma related structural dissociation as:
A Structural dissociation of the personality in order of a PTSD and CPTSD is based on trauma with psychological- and physical abuse, severe anxiety sensations and or bodily injury.

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Then we could point out the most striking difference between BPD and DID:

  1. BPD is caused by psychological neglect: too little positive attention
    The child no longer knows how to beat the ongoing hunger for love and attention, and how to deal with both. The child loses the ability to trust and attach although it suffers an ongoing, unbearable and insatiable hunger for love and attention to fill the gap of psychological emptiness. The personality (the inner self) stays intact but is suffering a personality disorder that dominates the whole person at all times.
  2. DID too much negative and abusive attention
    The very young child learnt by instinct to take care of the psychological en emotional self, and developed handling systems to bare the ongoing suffering from pain and anxiety that it couldn’t couple to a person, a moment or an explicit experience at that time, because it didn’t yet reached the age to do so. The child learns by instinct how not to be seen, because then it risked to be physically and or sexual abused (pain and anxiety suffering). The child loses the ability to listen to its own needs for love and caring. And did not learn how to ask for help or love, and it also didn’t learn how to trust in the safety of love and attention. It trusts only on his/her inner self.

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Now we can declare:
Every person has only one personality!
That personality dominates at all times the behavior of the person, so also how a disorder express itself.

So can a child develop DID and later also a BPD?
I would say ‘No
Because a child develops DID in a premature and very early stage of life (I would almost say: a trauma related development disorder). Such a child doesn’t wants to get attention, because attention means suffering. It learnt only how to survive, how to bare, how to be safe by itself and how to trust on the own inner self by developing handling (act) systems (ANP’s and EP’s). It loses the ability to listen to the own needs for warmth, love and attention. The inner self has fallen apart (ANP’s and EP’s).

Can a child that developed a Borderline personality disorder also develop a Dissociative Disorder?
I would say without a doubt: ‘Yes’.

Also someone that suffers a BPD can be severe traumatized and develop all sorts of dissociative symptoms (DD) up to a level II of the structural dissociation of the personality, except DID because a child that develops a BPD has already past the age to develop a DID. The switching behavior of someone that is suffering a BPD will also behave under the influence of that personality disorder. And a Borderline Personality can’t handle stable act e.g. handling systems (more than one ANP’s) where is not a lot of room for emotional switching behavior (EP switching) such as you can see by a DID.

A mature symptom of BPD is ‘impulsive and acting out behavior’ the host (1 ANP) suffers under the high influence of emotional personality parts (EP’s). But that isn’t a recognizable symptom of a DID disorder, where the most recognizable symptom is: more than one very stable Act (handling) systems over time, place, thinking, feelings, memories and task that they are the best in to handle or to manage (in daily live), and which act like apparently normal personality’s (more than one ANP and EP’s systems).. This kind of handling systems are not manageable for impulsive and acting out personality’s such as a Borderline personality. 
There the Borderline personality can develop all sorts of symptoms (DD) as far as can go; a level 2, BPD+OSDD the secondary structural dissociation of the personality.

In order of text summary:
How to fit in the difference between BPD and DID in the theory of the structural dissociation of the personality level 2 and level 3: Stable act eo handling systems, more than one ANP and more than one EP with not a lot of space for EP switching behavior such as you can find within DID personalities are NOT manageable for Borderline personality’s (also a BPD dominates the host at all time). One significant disorder symptom of a Borderline personality is a lack of stable handling, this makes the EP influence very high – and also impulsive behavior that goes under the influence of EP’s.

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end of part II
can BPD and DID accur at the same time